HELLOOO, NATIONAL REVIEW, THE ISSUE IS "NATURAL BORN" OR NOT

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National Review Online just can't let go of the Appease the Left and Insult the Conservatives movements.

Here they go again, another crazy columnist guy at NRO, wailing profanely ("Lord") about an issue he appears too dense to get.

However, above-the-head (and heart) of this NRO columnist guy is this: it's not singularly an argument about Obama's citizenship that remains murky, it's a case of Obama being or not being "natural born" as a citizen (if he is a U.S. citizen).

Our U.S. Constitution requires, that, for anyone to be President, they must be:

-- a U.S. citizen;
-- over the age of 35 years;
-- in residence in the U.S.A. for the most recent 14 years prior to the Office; and,
-- natural-born (which means, born in the U.S.A., geographically) (no naturalized citizens, no dual citizenships).

If someone does not meet ALL those qualifications, they can't receive the Oath of Office; and, if they are administered that Oath, they cannot afterward be recognized as President of the United States.

It's a simple matter that reaches beyond whether Obama is a U.S. citizen or isn't one (though that also remains unproven with any certainty given the dubious nature of what wan substantiation or proof he's provided so far).

But, let's assume that he was, indeed, born in Hawaii as he says he was (not yet proven to the public -- if "officials" in our government are assured of this, Obama needs to also make that same assuring evidence known to the public), then, he has to ALSO substantiate that he was/is a "natural born" citizen IF he was NOT born in Hawaii as he alleges (some say Kenya is his birthplace, including his relatives).

There are several arguments about Barack Obama / Barry Soetoro's birth circumstances, however, and it's not an unreasonable nor unrealistic (nor unimportant, nor frivolous) inquiry to be making.

The Constitution declares these terms for to be qualified (or not qualified) for the Presidency BECAUSE the writers of our Constitution did not want any foreign-born nor dual-citizenship person (anyone of possible dual loyalties or false pretenses in loyalties where our nation was concerned) to be President. The U.S. Presidency is an important position (d'oh) and needs to be carefully, securely and Constitutionally-qualifying staffed.

Barack Obama has offered questionable to absent documentation about who he is, where he's from; even as to his identity there's confusion and duplicity, and, statements by his own relatives contradict what he's said about himself in these regards.

Thus, the American citizenry stands to be affronted in considerable terms if a charlatan manipulates his way into the Presidency AND that's why the American voters deserve to be provided with some absolute proof of Barack Obama's birth circumstances.

Dot-Grey-Outline.gif Consider more confusion:

His grandparents and Barack Obama's own wife have let slip that Barack Obama's mother was not married to his father at the time of birth -- Obama and his apparently forged image file on his campaign website and dailykos state that they were married (though if to Mr. Obama from Kenya, wouldn't be legitimate anyway since Mr. Obama was already married to several women in Kenya at that time);

Barack does not resemble the man from Kenya (Mr. Obama) named on Barack Obama's alleged "certificate of birth" and instead, Barack Obama resembles Communist "mentor" to Obama, Frank Marshall Davis (which would explain why Barack Obama/Barry Soetoro is quite so indifferent to the relatives in and from Kenya and was quite so dedicated to "Frank, who he referred to often in his book, "Dreams From My Father");

Obama's grandparents stated their daughter -- Obama's mother -- was married ("her first marriage") to Lolo Soetoro in Indonesia;

Obama's living relatives say he, Obama, was born in Kenya; and,

Obama offered up an image file of what Obama and "dailykos" stated was Obama's "Certificate of Birth" -- presented first on "dailykos" website and then on his own campaign site -- an image file of what three experts concluded was a forgery (a forged image file of a forged document, to make it more complicated); that image file says that the parents were married (father, Mr. Obama from Kenya).

Dot-Grey-Outline.gif There's speculation that whatever Birth Certificate the state of Hawaii has "on file" (recently announced to be sealed by Hawaiian Governor, Linda Lingle), could have been obtained by Obama's mother after she flew to Hawaii after Obama's birth elsewhere.

That's certainly plausible and possible, since Obama's mother was flying around quite a bit prior to and after his birth, and, combined with the relatives' statements about Obama being born in Kenya (one relative saying she was present at his birth in Kenya), it's reasonable to speculate about the mother flying to Hawaii with the newborn and obtaining a Birth Certificate after the birth with newborn in tow presented at a local hospital, alleging home-birth (known to be a common occurence in Hawaii several decades ago, as also Birth Certificates for anyone born anywhere issued by Hawaii on as little as someone claiming birth there after the fact, or even by illigitimate payment to state employee/s).

All of these things are plausible, possible and remain inconclusively established as to any "natural born" U.S. citizenship status held by Barack Hussein Obama and/or Barry Soetoro.

Dot-Grey-Outline.gif Combine all of that with Obama's persistent lying about him never having any other citizenship than U.S. citizenship -- he only recently admitted that he had, in fact, held Kenyan citizenship and admitted this only after pressure, following a persistent deceit to the contrary about this -- and you get reasonable doubt about who the man is and what his motives are for lying as he has about who he is.

AND, more complex, his years in Indonesia in his youth with his mother and stepfather, Lolo Soetoro. Obama was in those years "Barry Soetoro" and there's more legal evidence of that identity than there is as to "Barack Hussein Obama," who appeared later.

Dot-Grey-Outline.gif While in Indonesia, Barry Soetoro was enrolled in a private religious school under that name and as a Muslim. His name was due to him having been adopted by Lolo Soetoro, who married Obama's mother.

When that occured -- Indonesia did not at that time allow dual citizenship, so, to reside there legally as Barry did with his mother, one would need to be an Indonesian citizen and if any other citizenship was held, that would have to have been denounced -- Barry was Indonesian.

He also, later, travelled to Pakistan, India and then on to Kenya, Africa. In which case, no U.S. citizen could enter Pakistan at the time of Barry's travels to that nation, so, thus, since he did enter and remain in Pakistan, he could not have done so as a U.S. citizen; but, he could have done so as an Indonesian or Kenyan citizen.

We know he held Kenyan citizenship by way of his father's citizenship in Kenya (so it's been presented, though Barack Hussein Obama has lied about having had a Kenyan citizenship, which he's only recently, finally, admitted to).

It's reasonably concluded that he had Indonesian citizenship afterward because he lived legally in Indonesia, the son of an Indonesian married couple and attended school there (thus, had to have been of Indonesian citizenship, which would have required him denouncing any other citizenship, U.S. included if it even existed).

What seems likliest from all this information is that he was born with Kenyan citizenship and later became an Indonesian citizen after his mother married Lolo Soetoro of and in Indonesia, and, Barry then renounced the Kenyan citizenship as required by Indonesia.

When he later arrived in Hawaii, there is no record of him having been naturalized as a U.S. citizen and it's even possible he's remained on in the U.S. as an illegal alien afterward -- and reason why the records from Columbia and Harvard have been held as secret by Obama, since those records might reveal that he was admitted and attended (and received financial aid) as a foreign student at both.

Given the abundance of lies and falsehoods already made by "Barack Hussein Obama," the country merits proof of his identity and birth circumstance.

If it annoys National Review Online, who cares.

Dot-Grey-Outline.gif It also does not lend credence to Barry/Barack's situation as to his qualifications for the Presidency, that he's said to not be so much as qualified for a security clearance from the FBI.

Yet here he is, now informed of our nation's highest-level security issues, imposing himself to be the handler of our nuclear arsenal, a guy who we don't know the identity of beyond a doubt, don't know where he's from, where he was actually born and to whom and how, unqualified to so much as maintain a law license from his local Bar Association because a renewal of his law license was denied him after he lied on his application.

And now we citizens are supposed to assume we're safe in our country with a possible charlatan in the White House. Who smiles a lot, so I suppose that's assumed by some to make us feel safe in our beds at night.

We fought our Revolutionary War over so much less than this.

Dot-Grey-Outline.gif Read the whole thing about this potential terror and confusing, obfuscating record of someone few people actually know: Obama Timeline

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